Marines As Seen By:
Himself: A handsome, buff, highly trained professional killer and female idol who carries a finely honed K-Bar, wears a crisp 8-point cammie cover and is always on time due to the absolute reliability of his Seiko digital watch.
His Wife: A stinking, gross, foul mouthed lovable bum who arrives back at home every few months with a seabag full of dirty utilities, a huge Seiko watch, an oversized knife, a filthy hat and hornier then hell.
Headquarters Marine Corps: A drunken, brawling, HMMWV-stealing, woman-corrupting "cumshaw artist" who wears a Seiko watch, an unauthorized K-Bar and a squared-away cover.
His Commanding Officer: A fine specimen of a drunken, brawling, HMMWV-stealing, woman-corrupting bullshitter with an incredibly accurate Seiko watch, a finely honed razor sharp K-Bar and a salty cammie cover.
What others have said:
Congress: Marines are overpaid, overrated tax burdens who are indispensable since they volunteer to go anywhere at any time and kill whoever they're told to kill, as long as they can drink, brawl, steal HMMWVs, corrupt women and sing dirty songs while wearing cammies, oversized knives, Seiko watches and really screwed-up 8-point covers that don't look like the Army's.
Ronald Reagan, former President of the United States: "Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they've ever made a difference in the world. Marines don't have that problem."
General Douglas MacArthur, US Army: " . . . these Marines have the swagger, confidence and hardness that must have been in Stonewall Jackson's Army of the Shenandoah. They remind me of the Coldstream Guards at Dunkirk."
Admiral Chester Nimitz, US Navy, on the Marine Corps' battle for Iwo Jima: "Uncommon valor was a common virtue"
General Douglas MacArthur, US Army: "I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front. There is not a finer fighting organization in the world!"
LtCol T R Fehrenbach, USA, in "This Kind of War": "The man who will go where his colors go without asking, who will fight a phantom foe in a jungle or a mountain range, and who will suffer and die in the midst of incredible hardship, without complaint, is still what he has always been, from Imperial Rome to sceptered Britain to democratic America. He is the stuff of which legends are made. His pride is his colors and his regiment, his training hard and thorough and coldly realistic, to fit him for what he must face, and his obedience is to his orders. As a legionnaire, he held the gates of civilization for the classical world . today he is called United States Marine."
An Anonymous Canadian Citizen: "Marines are about the most peculiar breed of human beings I have ever witnessed. They treat their service as if it was some kind of cult, plastering their emblem on almost everything they own, making themselves up to look like insane fanatics with haircuts so short as to be ungentlemanly, worshipping their Commandant as if he was a god, and making weird animal noises like a band of savages. They'll fight like rabid dogs at the drop of a hat just for the sake of a little action and are the cockiest SOBs I've ever known. Most have the foulest mouths and drink well beyond man's normal limits, but their high spirits and sense of brotherhood set them apart and, generally speaking, of the United States Marines with whom I've come in contact, are the most professional warriors and the finest men I've had the pleasure to meet. "
General John J "Black Jack" Pershing, US Army: "The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle! "
General Mark Clark, US Army: "The more Marines I have around the better I like it! "
General Johnson, US Army: "I can never again see a United States Marine without experiencing a feeling of reverence. "
Richard Harding Davis, war correspondent (1885): "The Marines have landed, and the situation is well in hand."
A Marine Drill Instructor at Parris Island: "Did you come here just to spoil my beloved Corps, maggot?"
A boot camp weapons coach: "To a Marine, happiness is a belt-fed weapon."
LtCol Oliver North, USMC (ret): "The only people I like beside my wife and kids are Marines."
MajGen J N Mattis, CG, 1st MarDiv - Iraq, March 2003: "You are part of the world's most feared and trusted fighting force. Engage your brain before you engage your weapon. Share your courage with each other as we enter the uncertain terrain north of our Line of Departure. Keep faith in your comrades on your left and right and Marine Air overhead. Fight with a happy heart and a strong spirit. For the mission's sake, our country's sake and the sake of the men who carried the Division's colors in past battles -- who fought for life and never lost their nerve -- carry out your mission and keep your honor clean. Demonstrate to the world there is 'No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy' than a United States Marine."
Eleanor Roosevelt - 1945: "The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps."
An Anonymous US Marine: "I recently attended a Kansas City Chiefs football game at Arrowhead Stadium. It was their annual Veteran's Day tribute so members of all the services were asked to participate in the festivities.A color guard for the National Anthem was provided by the Buffalo Soldiers Association. They looked very sharp in their 1800s-era US Army Cavalry uniforms. Following that, the Navy parachute team put on an impressive display that brought cheers from the 78,000 football fans in attendance. Shortly thereafter, we were treated to the truly awesome sight of an Air Force B-2 Spirit stealth bomber flyover as well as a few other aircraft. All of these sights -- but especially the B-2 -- were truly appreciated by the crowd who let it be known by their cheers. I expected that was all we would see of the US Military that day. I thought we would see a high school or college marching band during half-time. Few watch those shows anyway because they have to go to the head or grab another beer during the intermission.Shortly before half-time, however, I looked down on the sidelines near the end zone and saw the Marine Corps' Silent Drill Team forming up. As the half-time show started, the players left the field and the announcer came on the public address system to advise us of the Drill Team's performance. Many of us Marines have seen these performances in the past and they're always awe-inspiring. I didn't expect that the large civilian crowd of football fans would be as appreciative of the Drill Team as they had been of the high-tech B-2 or the daring of the Navy parachute team. However, I was on the edge of my seat. As the Drill Team marched onto the field, the crowd grew noticeably quieter. Soon, the team was fully into their demonstration. The stadium was absolutely silent.From high in the stands' upper reaches where my seats were, I was able to hear the "snap" and "pop" of hands striking rifles. Both big screen "Jumbotron" scoreboards displayed close ups of the Marines as they went through their routine. As they completed their demonstration and lined up for the inspection, the crowd began cheering as the Marines twirled their rifles in impossible fashion. Then came the inspection. Again, the crowd fell silent and watched intently as rifles were thrown, caught, twirled, inspected and thrown some more. Each well-practiced feat brought a "wow" or "did you see that?" from those sitting around me.I sat there in silent pride as I watched my brother Marines exit the field. A young girl behind me asked her mother a question about how the Marines learn to do the things they just did. The mother replied, "They practice long and hard and they're Marines; they're the best."
Semper Fidelis!!!
Thanks to Wayne of Waynes World for this!
One additional quote: The daughter of Harry Truman once referred to Marines as, "Underpaid, oversexed teenaged killers".
43 Comments:
Marines are overrated. I hate it when my friends in the States tell me "they go to war first". I also hate how the media calls them "Soldiers". They are not Soldiers. They are Marines. In most wars, we, The U.S. Army Special Forces (Green berets; Airborne Rangers) are there weeks even months before the war starts and remain the last ones to leave such conflict. I do respect the Marine Corps. for I got and lost many friends to them but I truly believe they are overly hyped. Civilians don't really know what they sometimes thin or say. Anyway, at the end. We all fight for the same cause...
Overratted huh? U.S. Army special forces, you guys aren't that great. You are small and have the BEST intell the millitary has to offer along with the Best gear. We Marines, however, have some of the worst gear and intell the USA has to offer. ( My company ran out of ammunition and smoke in the middle of Iraq for a week. OIF 5-7 Fallujah) If we had the same gear and intell, you would be out of a job.
Marines are not overrated. I admint the public's perception may not be accurate, but that doesn't make them overrated. Each conflict is different, but any one military unit is never the first and last out of the hot zone in every situation.
The Marine Expiditionary Unit is often the quick and sensible solution to a problem that is close to international waters. A MEU is a well rounded unit designed to assault and fight a larger force alone and without support until appropriate replacements arrive. This is why they preach violence of action so much.
Marines aren't overrated, they are simply the best at what they are designed to do.
Lately they have been used as occupying troops because there has been a need for that and they are usually good at what ever job you give them.
John is right about the gear, they didn't even give me 2 SAPI plates when I went to Iraq as an 0331. Marines are usually pretty ghetto compared to Army.
I am a US Marine, in the reserves so I can go to college. And I have the "luxury of having an Army Unit on the same grounds as my Marine Unit. The Army is a nasty disgusting group. A pfc can approach a sergeant and say, "hey what's up Sarge!" and he doesn't even get punched in the face.
i can see some of you marines have got your panties in a twist. "but but we're elite because we have stupid swords with our uniforms and we fight dragons in that commercial" calm down little marines. you guys would not be so bad if you idiots didn't talk so much shit and have delusions of grandeur. John do you honestly think your more elite, being an infantry marine than a U.S. Army special forces soldier? do have any concept of common sense? why don't you do some research and see the vast gap in training between you two. and why excatly are you so proud to have crappy equipment and bad intell? and by the way the recently formed marine spec ops(you guys didn't have any before and no force recon was not) weren't they kicked out of afghanistan? and to the marine reservist, yes army reservist are for the most part disgusting but if your ass is so hardcore why dont you go active? got to get that liberal arts degree huh? HOORAH! and lastly if the marines are so "badass" why is that the most elite marines go to ARMY airborne school and gasp! ranger school. every marine passes marine boot camp but not every marine passes ranger school. hmmm do the math. SEMPER FI good luck on your "long" deployment of 7 months and being stationed in San Diego(what a hard duty station, you guys sure have it rough)
i have to agree, as a navy seal, the marines are just plain troubled in the head. They are cocky, arrogant, and most of all disrespectful to higher rank of other military branches. In the Army, army spec ops, Navy, navy spec ops, and even the fucking coast guard we share a common respect for one another; because we fight for the same cause and dont flaunt our shit. So become a man not a little gossipy bitch on who has the most balls, because honestly we've had the majority of the drop out rate at BUD's to be marines.
As a retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant I can tell, yes, we are cocky and we are good, GREAT even, but so is every Sailor, Soldier, Airman and Coastie out there!!! After all, we are all on the same team, just different positions!!!
Well, I am a US Marine. No I have not yet seen combat or even been deployed. But the main difference I see in just the history of the Marine Corps as opposed to every other branch of the military is this. As of this year, at the Marine Corps 233rd Birthday Ball, it marked the 233rd year that the Marine Corps has been UNDEFEATED. Thanks Army, you guys did a great job in Falluja. We really wanted to have to take it twice for you guys, same with Mogadishu Somalia... At least the American People can go to sleep every night knowing that the MARINE CORPS is protecting this nation.
How many marines are aware that the campaign which captured "The Halls of Montezuma" in the Mexican War was an Army operation in which the Marine Corps played a very small, insignificant role.
Winfield Scott marched on Mexico City with a force of 12,000 to 13,000 which included one battalion of 354 Marines. The Marine Battalion spent most of its time guarding supply wagons in the rear.
The Marine Battalion did fight in the assault on Chapultepec. Most of the Marine Battalion never got into Chapultepec. The people who scaled the walls and fought the garrison were SOLDIERS
Bah, fighting for corporate interests.... "At least the American People can go to sleep every night knowing that the MARINE CORPS is protecting this nation." - yeah, you dumb f**k, that is the truth. Son, you got handed the wrong intel.
I was in the corp for 4 years and in those short 4 years ive met some of the worst human beings and some of the best.Just like the army as well.Saying the marines are better is stupid to me. Both forces have different capacities and uses.Along with the navy and air force.It is what it is but when it comes to force in readiness marines are trained the best from what ive seen. However ill also mention that from talking to recon marines and navy seal students the navy seals have the toughest sf pipeline.
Lets cut through the BS. People become Marines because they are looking for the "honor", the "pride", and the "respect" the Corps promises them. That's the difference between them and the other services. The people who join the Army aren't searching for those things, they already have them. The Marine Corps "makes" men. The Army recruits them. And all that talk about Marines being hardcore is a load. My grandfather was a Marine with 7th Regiment during Korea, he was a REAL Marine. All these guys now are queers living off the legacy of people like my grandfather who were truely HARDCORE. Yeah you have your 13 week training, but the Army can get the same result out of 9, why? Because the Army isnt full of losers and rejects looking to prove something to themselves. Marines are a quick reaction force and nothing more. If it wasnt for the Army their wouldnt be a Marine Corps because the Marine Corps can't even sustain itself for extended periods of time in war. So take your little 7 month tours while you sit in your air conditioned huts in Kuwait (ive been there, and seen it personally) while the Army and the National Guard do all the work. But it's cool, you'll still get all the credit. And in the mean time keep sending your "badass" Recon Marines to my Army schools like Airborne, Ranger, Pathfinder, SOTIC, Air Assault, and Recon Leaders Course so i can keep watching them washout like a bunch of pussies.
As a retired US Marine (Combat Vet) who has been there and done that, I always find it funny when SpecOps Units (of 100's or maybe a few 1,000 men) compare themselves to the whole of the Marine Corps. I've been to Ranger School, Airborne Course, USAJFKSWCS - SFARTAETC, to mention a few. I've worked extensively with the National Assets as a member of their Cover Element and although I hold SpecOps Units and individual professionals with the highest regard ... please stop comparing yourselves to the Marines. Our missions are astronomically differed. We are the best at what we do as I know you are at what your mission entails. During Operation United Shield in Somalia our mission was to provide cover and extraction of the remaining UNISOM forces (Bangladeshis and Pakistanis), and all the Tanks, Personnel Carriers, and Heavy Equipment that the Army abandoned a few years prior. Mission Accomplished and Semper Fidelis!
It is a matter of historical fact that the Marines DID NOT play a significant role in the capture of "the halls of Montezuma" in the Mexican war, the Marines DID NOT play a significant role in the capture in the capture of Derna on the shores of Tripoli, and WERE NOT the first armed force to fight in defense of the United States.
The Marine Corps does not have any right to claim it has been defending this country for a conginuous 235 years. The Continental Marine Corps was disbanded in 1783. The US Marine Corps was not organized until 1798. In the 235 years since the organization of the Continental Marines, there was a 15 year period in which no Marine Corps existed.
How much you want to bet that all of those other anonymous comments are from the same guy? Clearly he has been hurt by the Marine Corps, maybe they wouldn't let him in and now he's out to discredit and talk down on the Corps. What a d-bag!
Army sucks
Aren't Ready for the Marines Yet. That's what the ARMY Stands for. The army is the largest force with some great equipment yet the Marines still get the job done with the smallest force and little gear. The Army has retards too. They enlist people with GED's??? What a bunch of rocks. Marine Corps standards are high compared to the army. We attend your schools cause you guys don't have the balls to tell us NO. Marines have landed chumps. Special forces in the army is like idots with water guys. Spray and pray and Marines are one shot one kill. You even enlist people who don't want to fight. What is that. Army recruiters have to entice people to join your organization. Thats sad when you think about it. They can't join for the honor. They only join for the money and college. They minus well go to community college for basket weaving and join the boy scouts. You just hating cause a Marine probably stold your women. Suck it!!!
"Aren't Ready for the Marines Yet. That's what the ARMY Stands for. The army is the largest force with some great equipment yet the Marines still get the job done with the smallest force and little gear. The Army has retards too. They enlist people with GED's??? What a bunch of rocks. Marine Corps standards are high compared to the army. We attend your schools cause you guys don't have the balls to tell us NO. Marines have landed chumps. Special forces in the army is like idots with water guys. Spray and pray and Marines are one shot one kill. You even enlist people who don't want to fight. What is that. Army recruiters have to entice people to join your organization. Thats sad when you think about it. They can't join for the honor. They only join for the money and college. They minus well go to community college for basket weaving and join the boy scouts. You just hating cause a Marine probably stold your women. Suck it!!!"
What a bunch of outstanding coherent jib-jab, this guy is a complete fag.
I do not have a problem with Marines. I have two great childhood friends who chose the Marine Corps and I joined the 82nd Airborne and was just slotted for Ranger Assesment and Selecton Process(the reason i joined the Army). Pride in the Marine Corps comes from being, well, A Marine!!Pride in the Army come from what specialty or division you come from, exp: 82nd Airborne, or 75th Ranger Regiment ect. The Army is MASSIVE and thats why standards arent the same compared to the much smaller Marine Corps. Most Marines who talk shit the internet are Wannabes/civilians, Cherries, or Marines that just want to piss you off. Bottom line- Grow up, Grow a dick, and move on with your life. Oh no the Marines are making fun of me!!! If it bothers then you're fucking weak. have a nice day
-82nd Airborne 2008- current
Oh by the way. The 82nd captured Fallujah, handed it to the Marines. Marines lost the city, asked 82nd if they could help them retake it(pshh you might want to look up the actual battle reports buddy). Somalia 1993. U.S. Marines causing too much collateral damage to civilan and friendlys while conducting missions, DOD sends US Rangers, Delta, PLUS SEALS, and PJ's./// Irene: 1 company of Rangers face a fierce assault by over 1,000 amrmed Somali's. Giving the Spec Op Forces relief US Army 10th Mtn Divsion, US Marines, NATO forces. Amount of Enemy Combatants killed by US Rangers and Delta Aprox: 850. not bad for Rangers and Delta being constantly ambushed. yeah every Marine is a rifleman. Every Ranger is an Expert on Infantry warfare and Close Quarters Combat. See how easy it is too piss people off LOL,I made up like 40 percent of this shit, too show you the garbage people spew on the Internet. GOD BLESS AMERICA, I LOVE ALL OUR TROOPS,MARINES, ARMY, NAVY, AND AIRFORCE. we have bigger enemies too face like the CODE PINK AND WCW , AND THAT FUCKING WESTBORO BAPTIST SHIT!! Good up the fight everyone. Untied WE STAND!
82nd Airborne 2008-Current
Untied we stand? ah shit...
82nd Airborne 2008-current
Marines? What the hell is a marine? Why it's just a sort of infantry sailor. You see, contrary to the the lies perpetuated by marines (and they are, I'll admit, pretty good liars), there are only three branches of the military - the US Army, the US Air Force, and the US Navy. The marines belong to the US Navy. Notice, there is a Secretary of the Army, a Secretary of the Air Force, and a Secretary of the Navy. There is no Secretary of the marines. The marines are part of the Navy. If you don't believe me, check their ID card. So you see, they are really just sailors who are pretending to be Army soldiers. It's quite amusing. Most marines do not possess the intellectual prowess nor military profiency of a soldier in the US Army. Many of those who fail to achieve a qualifying score on military entrance aptitude exams when applying to the Army are referred to the marines because their mental standards are not as high. Yeah, there are a lot of mental category 4's in the marines. You see, that's why it's so easy to brainwash them. Gives new meaning to the term jarhead, doesn't it? heh heh...
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My father was a Maj in the army. He did 4 yrs enlisted and the rest as an officer. He was the CO of 3rd 11th ACR. He was stationed on the border before the wall came down. He later became a linguist and worked at Camp Smith with every branch of service. He went and taught cadets Russian at the Air Force Academy. He had two master degrees and many other accomplishments in his life. I am Marine who is 100 % disabled. Before my father died I asked if he had any regrets in life. Do you know what he said? "I should of been a Marine". I have three brother in laws, my wife and my sister who are all Marines. 4 of us have degrees and 2 of us had them when we joined in 96. We are not stupid we just didn't want to take the easy way.
Anonymous I saw the end product after nine weeks? Why was it when I was at my MOS school we had to get an 80% to pass all tests and the army just had to get a 60%. 12 soilders 4 marines per class. We graduated with 9. 4 of those were marines. I know this is just a small sample but it should be enough. I do believe the reason we lost 18 Marines in one day this war was do you know? We had a battalion that got split up to send a third of it to help rescue Jessica Lynch. That was the highest death toll in one day and still is. Do you think those marines that came back from that rescue mission blamed the army for the loss of there brothers. We had to weaken our own force to help save her. They did it no questions asked and never bitched about that tragic loss of life. I bet Jessica isn't sitting at home wishing she wouldn't of been such a pussy when that Marine recruiter knocked on her door. I bet she thinks If I had of joined The Corps I never would of had my ass kicked like that and none of this would of ever happened. I am sure she is happy at home with her purple heart etc etc. Just like the four soilders in Kosivo was it, that were lost ( just like her convoy was) in their humvee got captured by rebels. Wasn't it three SNCOs and a Cpl that drove out of the "safe zone" and into militants hands. But don't you worry they got a bunch of awards too when they were rescued. They got those awards to remind them you can't take a humvee during war time to drive down to the local pub for a beer. For me the worse thing about that was now they ruined it for the rest of the soilders they were stationed with. Now they all have to walk to the bar, no more taking the company car. I know you always have that 10 % that ruin for the rest of us. With us it more likely to me a PFC or a Pvt. I know by the time a Marine is a Lcpl he can tell direction and read a map so I understand. When does the Army learn about land nav? You would think Staff school would of taught those soilders something. Maybe since boot camp is only 9 weeks you could allow some more time to learn map skills it is pretty important. Just a thought. Hey my fellow Devil Dogs I figured out why this Army lover is so angry. He just broke up with his lady, she left home for a Marine.
The United States Marine Corps has a penchant for claiming credit for what the Marine Corps has not accomplished.
An article published in 1921 by Leatherneck claimed that what gave George Washington the combat power to win Trenton and Princeton was a reinforcement of 600 Marines(http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/american-marines-battles-trenton-and-princeton). No Marines ever fought at Trenton on the morning of 26 December 1776. Fewer than 200 Marines(out of a force of 4000-5000) fought at Princeton and did not distinguish itself.
The campaign that captured Derne on the shores of Tripoli was the brain child of former Army officer William Eaton. Colonel Eaton conceived of, planned, organized the campaign and led the force of 500 Mercenaries and 8 Marines. If not for Colonel Eaton, the Marine Corps would not have any reason to sing about the Shores of Tripoli(http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1202_051202_pirate_coast_2.html).
At the Battle of Bladensburg, the British leaders, MG Robert Ross and ADM George Cockburn complimented Commodere Joshua Barney's sailors for their defense. Neither Genreal Ross nor Admiral Cockburn ever mentioned the Marines. Google "Commodore Barney at the Bladensburg Races.
From http://www.chadduck.com/ymarines/useful/battles.htm: "The BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS: In January of 1815, Marines under the command of General Andrew Jackson soundly defeated British Forces that were attacking the city of New Orleans. The British lost approximately 2,000 men while American losses were less than 100."
From http://mliyr.multiply.com/notes/item/29?&show_interstitial=1&u=%2Fnotes%2Fitem: The American Order of Battle included 58 US Marines.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_New_Orleans: Andrew Jackson had about 4000 men on line in the main battle for New Orleans.
According to the Marine Corps publication "Marines in the Mexican War", downloadable as a pdf document, the troops who captured Chapultepec at the Halls of Montezuma were Soldiers, not Marines.
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What are you mumbling about? Marines are ran by a liberal pussy general that sucks his nigger nog sgt majors clit.they're underpaid I admit but overrated. I did my four years got out with an honorable. I really don't miss the douche bag jar heads. They're brains are disconnected from reality.
We send them to battle for rights and freedom, and they do so without question or regard to their personal safety. We know many will be killed and many will have wounds they carry for life. Some wounds are not visible to the naked eye, but the look in our warrior's eyes tells more.
They march to the sound of the guns, and follow the commands of their leaders without hesitation, and trust their fellow warriors to do the same. Some fall never to rise again, but the battles go on until the last breath of freedom's air is consumed, or the day is won.
These warriors carry the title of United States Marines.
As one of those warriors who has long since set his weapons aside, what I was then is who I am today. I am a warrior, but I'm fighting a different battle, fought a different way with different weapons. I see from my own experience how our warriors have to battle for what is their entitlement. We were not trained for these battles and do not have the weapons of our opposing forces, but we will march forward without retreat on our minds.
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Anonymous Douglas L Berger SGT, UDMC, 1961/66 said...
Should read Douglas L Berger SGT, USMC, 1961/66
You're retarded. Army has lower ASVAB requirements than the corps. Go wear your faggy ACUs to the shopping mall, fat ass.
The Marines don't take credit for Chapuktepec, the blood stripe is in reverence for the large number of Marine NCO who died in the battle. If you're gonna be a faggot at least be an accurate faggot.
Bunch of butt hurt dip shits pretending to be operators in here. We all know the hardest of the core fight with keyboards on a no name fucking blog post. Go haze yourselves for stealing valor, you crusty chodes.
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